NAS issues with SMB/CIFS; how to 'see' client-server messaging?
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I have a new Synology NAS (DS1621+), and have begun integration into my home network. I'm having some problems using it with my Linux hosts. I can mount the NAS, but the permissions (as seen from Linux) are not what I want them to be. I'm under the impression that ownership & permissions can be *"mapped"* from the NAS to my Linux clients, but it's unclear to me how this is done. My Linux hosts are all Debian-based units, and file services provided by the Synology NAS are via SMB. From Linux, I use the *cifs-utils suite* (
mount -t cifs ...
) to mount the shares.
I've contacted Synology, and was surprised to learn:
**1:** Synology does not provide tech support to "command line" users.
**2:** Synology claimed their SMB implementation is proprietary, and do not provide any (useful) documentation on the interface.
I *suspect* that Synology's implementation is not *that* far off mainstream, but after some trial-and-error, I'm still having *"permissions issues"*. Also, the mount.cifs
manual has many options whose purpose and effect are vague to me.
Are there any Linux tools available that can help identify how the various options and parameters in mount.cifs
affect permissions as seen from the Linux client's perspective? I'd like to eliminate as much of the *trial-and-error* as possible.
I'm interested in using SMB instead of NFS because I've heard more negatives on NFS than I have SMB.
I have created the users on the Synology side and added them to the SMB config there.
#### EDIT: 2022-07-12; More reading, findings
The *variables* which seem to be in play are:
1. the state of the Linux implementation of the ["Unix Extensions"](https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/UNIX_Extensions) to SMB, and the version on my client machine
2. the state of the server's (Synology's) implementation of SMB/Samba
3. the state of the server's (Synology's) implementation of the "Unix Extensions"
In an effort to improve the quality of this question, I've attempted to define these variables in the context of my question:
1. Re the state of the Linux implementation of the "Unix Extensions":
$ mount.cifs --version
mount.cifs version: 6.11
# NOTE1: Unix Extensions are enabled by default per man mount.cifs
# NOTE2: see also 'modinfo cifs'
2. Re server (Synology) version of SMB/Samba:
$ ssh admin@SynologyNAS-1
/$ samba --version
Version 4.10.18
/$ uname -srm
Linux 4.4.180+ x86_64
3. Re server (Synology) version of the "Unix Extensions"
***I'm at a loss on how to do this, so I tried smbclient
:***
$ smbclient \\\\SynologyNAS\\rpi_share -U=pi
Enter WORKGROUP\pi's password:
Try "help" to get a list of possible commands.
smb: \> help
? allinfo altname archive backup
blocksize cancel case_sensitive cd chmod
chown close del deltree dir
du echo exit get getfacl
geteas hardlink help history iosize
lcd link lock lowercase ls
l mask md mget mkdir
more mput newer notify open
posix posix_encrypt posix_open posix_mkdir posix_rmdir
posix_unlink posix_whoami print prompt put
pwd q queue quit readlink
rd recurse reget rename reput
rm rmdir showacls setea setmode
scopy stat symlink tar tarmode
timeout translate unlock volume vuid
wdel logon listconnect showconnect tcon
tdis tid utimes logoff ..
!
smb: \> ? posix
HELP posix:
turn on all POSIX capabilities
smb: \> posix
Server doesn't support UNIX CIFS extensions.
smb: \> ? chmod
HELP chmod:
chmod a file using UNIX permission
smb: \> chmod test-touch-4B.txt 666
Server doesn't support UNIX CIFS calls.
...
#### 2022-07-12; Conclusions & Revised Questions?
The above results with smbclient
***suggest*** that with respect to SMB/CIFS, my client software is [*up to speed*](https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/up+to+speed) , but my shiny new Synology NAS is far [*behind the curve*](https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/behind+the+curve) .
My original question now becomes, "Are these results accurate; is there a more conclusive or accurate method to determine the status of a product when the vendor refuses any information on it?"
For those with similar questions, I can only offer this:
>***In my case***: I mount
using Synology user pi
credentials. Doing so leaves my Linux user pi
unable to write to the mounted share - despite the fact that Synology user pi
had been given R&W privileges in the Synology DSM. I found that adding the uid=pi
and gid=pi
options to my mount -t cifs
command, at least enabled the Linux user pi
to write to the SMB share on the Synology server. ***Why*** this works I will have to leave for others to answer.
### Further Reading:
1. [The SMB UNIX Extensions Wiki](https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/UNIX_Extensions)
2. [CIFS VFS - Protocol extensions to the Common Internet File System for better POSIX file I/O semantics](https://www.samba.org/samba/CIFS_POSIX_extensions.html)
3. [A Search: what are the "Unix Extensions" for SMB/CIFS/Samba?](https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=what+are+the+%22Unix+Extensions%22+for+SMB%2FCIFS%2FSamba&atb=v278-1&ia=web) .
4. [Samba version 4.3 or newer supports SMB 3.1.1](https://www.admin-magazine.com/Archive/2017/40/SMB-3.1.1-in-Windows-Server-2016)
5. [Linux cifs mailing list](http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-cifs)
6. mount.cifs
and mount.smb3
are *nearly* the same; ref man mount.cifs
- which is also the manual for mount.smb3
.
7. [The SMB3-Linux Wiki](https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/SMB3-Linux)
8. [Are SMB POSIX Extensions Same As SMB Unix Extensions?... *Apparently not*](https://snia.org/sites/default/files/SDC/2020/053-French-SMB3-POSIX-Extensions-Phase.pdf)
9. [CIFS Protocol Extensions Update, fm 2006 (This has been YEARS
in the making)](https://download.samba.org/pub/samba/cifs-cvs/snia-developer-2006-cifs-extensions.pdf)
10. [A Tour through the CIFS Protocol Extensions and Linux CIFS client, fm. 2008](https://vdocument.in/a-tour-through-the-cifs-protocol-extensions-and-linux-cifs-almost-ntfscifs.html) .
11. [SMB3 POSIX Extensions Phase 2 ... what is next? (fm. 2020)](https://snia.org/sites/default/files/SDC/2020/053-French-SMB3-POSIX-Extensions-Phase.pdf)
12. [The video of #10 above](https://www.snia.org/educational-library/smb3-posix-extensions-phase-2-now-they-are-what-next-2020)
13. [The Linux kernel user’s and administrator’s guide » CIFS (note: more verbiage by Steve French)](https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/cifs/index.html)
14. [What Is SMB Protocol and Why Is it a Security Concern?](https://cybersophia.net/articles/what-is/what-is-smb-protocol-and-why-is-it-a-security-concern/)
15. [Server Message Block - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Message_Block)
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